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Exibar, IANAL...are you?
However, you do know that inheritence laws differ from state to state and
that in dealing with Yahoo! we are dealing with an international? Also, I
remain unconvinced of your assertion that a default inheritor owns digital
records. Can you cite case law to support your contention please?
"Exibar" <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote on 12/25/2004 12:49:10 AM:
> His parents become the gardians of his estate by default (assuming
> he wasn't married or had children). His parents now own everything
> that man had while alive, digital and physical.
> Same thing as if I had died, my wife would inherit everything that
> I own. Yahoo's only in need of a legal document stating that, then
> they will have to relinquish the password for his account. If they
> do so before they receive this document, then they are breaking
> their own policies.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bart.Lansing@kohls.com [mailto:Bart.Lansing@kohls.com]
> Sent: Friday, December 24, 2004 10:41 AM
> To: Exibar
> Cc: email@example.com; full-disclosure-bounces@lists.
> netsys.com; morning_wood
> Subject: [inbox] Re: [Full-Disclosure] This sums up Yahoo!s security
> policy to a -T-
> Exibar wrote on 12/23/2004 09:36:40 AM:
> > I applaud Yahoo for adhearing to their policies. All the familly has
> > is send legal documents of their son's death, and legal documents
> > who they are. At that point I'm sure the account information will be
> > released as per Yahoo's policy.
> > Instead of trying to get the media involved, they should be getting
> > laywer involved as the clock's ticking on the 90 no-activity delete.
> > lawyer will know the correct documents to send over to yahoo as proof
> > their son's death and that his parents have control over their dead
> > belongings/estate.
> > Perhaps what yahoo *could* do, or *should* do, is remove the 90 day
> > time-out on their son's e-mail account until they can have a chance of
> > through the courts. Perhaps extend it up to 365 days...
> > Exibar
> We're goint to disagree here...
> His parents have no right to access his mail account, period. It's
> not theirs, and unless he stated in a will or prior release that
> these electronic records should be released...and to whom...they
> should vanish when his account does.
> These are not memoirs or a diary, or a bundle of written letters
> which could be argued was knowingly left behind with a high
> probability of discovery. These are electronic records deposited
> with a trusted entity with the expectation of safekeeping and privacy.
> Yahoo "should" violate their own policies in order to facilitate
> releasing this email into the hands of people who are not owners of
> those records? I think not.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "morning_wood" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
> > To: <email@example.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 8:59 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] This sums up Yahoo!s security policy to
> > > > If their refusal to release that mail even after their customer is
> > is
> > > > an indication as to their privacy practices, three cheers for
> > > >
> > > > Don't you get the whole "slippery slope" thing? If it's ok when
> > > > dead (which it's not, my stuff is my stuff...destroy it when
> > > > I've really shuffled off elsewhere, unless I gave you very
> > > > instructions otherwise) then maybe it's ok if you are in a
> > > > maybe it's ok if you are really sick and someone else is your
> > > > guardian becaue you've been declared non-compos mentis...then
> > > > ok if it's your parents...or your wife...or a concerned
> > > >
> > > > What's in that mailbox is/was mine, none of your business unless I
> > > > to share it.
> > >
> > > i couldnt agree more... another case of lame, illogical media
> > > BRAVO YAHOO
> > >
> > > happy hollidays,
> > >
> > > m.w
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